i remember don quote with sancho. and the dogs start to bark and sancho says, they are going to bit us. he answers, take it easy. if the dogs are barking, it is because we are galloping. i will be very sad and worried if the interest government was calling me a great democratic man. no, it is them. it is the emperor who attack those who are contributing to the real democracy. >> that was president chÁvez in copenhagen in december 2009. the make it to the response of professor miguel tinker salas to that. >> i think there has been an effort in venezuela to promote green energy, promote environmental causes. there's a lot more to do. venezuela is very wasteful in terms of oil. cars consume a tremendous amount of carbon monoxide there is the beginning consciousness about the environment, of a legacy of 100 years in the oil industry that has really damaged the environment. there's a lot to be done in terms of the country. but what was said previously, the venezuelan deficit is not out of line with the rest of latin ameri